THE NEW JAYWIZ 2023

THE NEW JAYWIZ 2023
THE NEW JAYWIZ 2023

Sunday, September 13, 2009

UPDATE & new thread

Joseph, I will offer my outlook for SPT and October
at the risk of being sent to jail by ONE anon,
who Im sure has not offered ANYTHING
constructive for the group to use for more effective trading

Remember, this is only my opinion, and anyone trading on my outlook
is doing so at their own risk.
I do NOT offer any advice as to what or when to buy or sell-
I only offer my own trades and sometimes LIKE any trader, I lose$ also

Having said that for the benefit of anon, Heres my outlook for the next couple months

SPT and OCTOBER are set up to SELL OFF, but as any market,
it will have some WILD gyrations


SPT 14 as per previous data for TIME and PRICE WILL have SQUARED OFF.

Heres a SUMMARY

SPT14th TOP of wave P2
DOWN on SPT 15 to 17
LOW on SPT 17th as per FLASH also
Rebound start on 18th - RoshHashanah to 22nd

23rd to 25th DOWN AGAIn and YES the 25th & or 28th should be an IMPORTANT
LOW & or TURN
28th is YOM Kippur, and the mkt should start to move SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER
into
The NEXT 2 Bradley dates of OCT 2nd & 10th, both of which look like highs
for other reasons than JUST Bradley
NEW 2009 HIGHS ?? Maybe, but I doubt it & IT REALLY WONT MATTER,
if we are trading short term.

As per FLASH, per private email
WE BOTH agree on another MAJOR SLIDE from OCTOBER 10th to 16th

I think thats MORE than we need to know for now, and any further projections wont
be remembered by anyone anyway.

FLASH has MANY turn dates within the next 2 weeks, and he is RIGHT about them.
(15-17-18)-(17-21-22) (21-22-23) (17-21-24)- BUT how can anyone make sense of it?
he calls the above four 3 legged turns ?????????

But it does seem to fit in with increased VOLITILITY for the next 10days

Flash is working on a system derived from Keplers law which he calls CALEB
maybe it will offer more details as he develops it.

More later, maybe
Jay



35 comments:

Joseph said...

Thanks Jay, at the end of the day its me who presses the buy/sell button. I appreciate your feedback and insight. Im hoping for us to hit 1060 before OCT but.... Thanks as always, Im sure many will enjoy your analysis as I have

Take care
Joseph

Anonymous said...

the end/middle of october is an important gann squaring of price and time around 1150 if a high,which delta seems to be pointing to now.the short term delta count is truly exasperating me so im gonna hold tight till some clarification occurs.

Jay Strauss said...

Now that the MKt has you ALL convinced its invincible, are you going to pay attentio0n to the data, and the wave count

As WAVE 5 of 5 approaches, the depth of moves narrows with LESS and LESS volume

remember this
3rd wave high as of Aug28th = MOMENTUM high
5th wave high as of SPT 14th = price high
price highs LACK momentum.

You can see it in the depth of the moves.

You only need a chart to compare volume and OBV at each point in time

Jay

Ravi said...

There is a great degree of consensus for A of Y ending at 1018 on August 7:

W 6-Mar 666.79 956.23 289.44
X 11-Jun 956.23 869.32 -86.91 -30.0% of W
A of Y 7-Aug 869.32 1018.00 148.68


After that, counts get iffy with many alternatives. For now, I consider the following as the preferred count that has B at 978.51 and an Ending Diagonal in progress since then. For this to remain valid, (iii) can not go beyond 1052.93 since for ED (iii)< (i):

B of Y 17-Aug 1018.00 978.51 -39.49 -26.6% of A
(i) of C of Y 28-Aug 978.51 1039.47 60.96
(ii) of C of Y 2-Sep 1039.47 991.97 -47.5 77.9% of (i)
(iii)? of C of Y 11 or 14 -Sep 991.97 1050.00 58.03 95.2% of (i)
(iv) of C of Y 1050.00 1004.39 -45.61 78.6% of (iii)
(v) of C of Y 1004.39 1056.62 52.23 90.0% of (iii)

If this remains valid tomorrow, (v)< (iii) rule be a major stop loss point. Its value will depend on how deep (i) is.

I will review other alternative counts later, time permitting.

Anonymous said...

How d'ya like them futures!!!

Mat F.

14th is now confirmed high for this cycle!

Don't let anyone tell ya different! but I guess that's too late now.

Mat F.

samamehta said...

future right noe are trading 10 points down. jay what is your scenario for tday, if we gap down?

thanks

Ravi said...

Given the futures down 10 points, it looks like Friday hi was top of 3. The rest changes very slightly:

B of Y 17-Aug 1018.00 978.51 -39.49 -26.6% of A
(i) of C of Y 28-Aug 978.51 1039.47 60.96
(ii) of C of Y 2-Sep 1039.47 991.97 -47.5 77.9% of (i)
(iii)? of C of Y 11 or 14 -Sep 991.97 1048.16 56.19 92.2% of (i)
(iv) of C of Y 1048.16 1003.99 -44.17 78.6% of (iii)
(v) of C of Y 1003.99 1054.57 50.57 90.0% of (iii)

Anonymous said...

I meant to say 11th not 14th.

Mat. F.

Jay Strauss said...

2000 days SPT 11 -2001
to 2009 = 8 yrs within .10pts of same level -hmm

other than that, we should make a minuette wave 1 & 2 today

GET READY for an ILL WIND

YES Mat F.
SPT11th according to the MATH was the HIGH & TURN

Got to run for appt
more later

Jay

Ravi said...

Market not acting as coming off a top. Gap down in pre-market got filled starting from pretty close to opening.

Move from 1048 rather shallow a, b, c; not five waves.

Jay Strauss said...

So far the spx only got down to 1035
at the open and has been crawling back- its now 11am and a typical turn hourly, but I have nothing to indicate a turn lower TODAY

there is a 50%/13 day cycle pivot at 2pm, which could allow a 3pm or even a 4pm FINAL HIGh of the P2 wave. or at least wve v of (iii)


I notice that WHEN I propose price level which last week matched Daneric's potentail pullback to 1014 , I GET ONE ANON who wants to send me to JAIL-

AND Ive said that b4 and I still fell into the TRAP.

SORRY, I WILL NOT BE TRAPPEd like that again

Ravi is REALLY great at deciphering price levels based on
wave structure.

Pres Obama on Wall St today should fall into place for a higher close , but NO NEW HIGHS are coming

ITS GOING TO BE DOWn from HERE to the 23rd and or 25th
dont ask how low- We will LET JAILER ANON tell us whats next.

From 1048 to 1035, they backed off
13 pts.
remember what NUMBERS & dates are important

Mar6th low @666.79 + 377 = 1044
Mar9th low@672.53 + 377 = 1050

the HIGH hit at 10am FRIDAY

11squared from March 6th = Aug 28th PLUS 11days = SPT 11th at 10am

I posted all that b4 and you can see it on the main pages.

Jay

Ravi said...

the move fro lo today counts as an impulsive 5 up.

Anonymous said...

Jay,
Check your map and see which way leads you to the jail and which way leads you out of the trap. How do evaluate your damn prediction? 50%, or less? If so, why not just flop a coin before putting a trade. Maybe in that way, you can get out of the hell a little earlier.

Jay Strauss said...

Dear ANON
Constructive comments are ALWAYS WELCOME

Jay

Jay Strauss said...
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Jay Strauss said...

Ravi
I dont think that Friday's high at 10am was the final high for wve v of (iii) BUT today AND OR TOMRROW Morning MIGHT just do it with a return to 1048 on close TODAY

Jay

Ravi said...

Jay;

Yes, it looks like we are heading to a new hi first.

The early first five wave up was retraced only 38.2%. Now starting next five up.

Anonymous said...

selling short here at 1047.2.should be good for a couple.

Jay Strauss said...

OK, Ravi
March 9th close was
676.53
add 377
highest close could be 1053.53
which is very close to your 1054.57

One and the SAME

There are a number of other technicians who are claiming a change in trend after today other than myself

DOLLAr bottoming seems VERY CLEAR
VIX bottoming seems very clear
Gold may have already topped

I will be SHORTING the close today
its now 2;30, and we got 180 bar low at 1;30 PLUS a 13 day segment pivot at 2pm, and they are above that heading into the last 90 min.

activity index hit a high at 2pm of 275, but has backed off a bit to 200 = nothing devastating

propens index is on the rise for today at 2004, up from 2984 yesterday

power index peaks out at 500 today
takes a BIG dive tomrrow to 300

ALL in ALL it ALL looks like TODAY is the day
ITS also an 8day HIGh
making tomrrow an 8 day TURN

BIGgest down days are scheduled for 17th/18
AND
23rd to 25th

EXPECT HUGE SNAP BACK rally from Spt28th to oct10th

Jay

Ravi said...

Possible path to a new hi:

i 1035.00 1044.28 9.28
ii 1044.28 1041.13 -3.15 -33.9%
iii ?? 1041.13 1049.00 7.87 0.848060345
iv ???? 1049.00 1045.99 -3.01 -38.2%
v ???? 1045.99 1052.68 6.69 0.85

Jay Strauss said...

Ravi

MKT following the HOURLY times.

AFTER the 1;15pm setback from the 5 wave high at 11;15, it now looks like waves
1 ,2 & 3 completed at 2;45
now should get wave 4
then 5th wave into the close for possible high 1050 to 1054

Saturn 180 Uranus @9am tomrrow
Mkt has no more time to respond to to it.
Uranus is the planet of dramatic changes , and trend changes occur
at either conjunctions and or oppositions

the new moon on the 18th is DEFLATIONARY combined with SUN 0 Saturn 180 Uranus = the OPPOSITE of the 180 of the 15th mentioned above

ITS AMAZING how the mkt pays such close attention to TIME SLOTS
I always realized that people do things on the half hour or hour, but now having watched it, Im amazed.
11am
1pm
3pm
can be plus or minus 15 min


Jay

Anonymous said...

took half point profit,doesnt want to go down by the looks of it.

samamehta said...

well we just hit 1049 and coming down to 1045? It looks like we see new high tomorrow gap up open to 1052-1067 and then down

Ravi said...

Looks like iii hit 1049.00 right on the nose.

Anonymous said...

i have to agree,despite the waning strength of this move,it still has the characteristics of a wave 3.this leaves yet another full 5 waves up after the belated showing of a wave 4.another 100pts up within 7 weeks ?

Ravi said...
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Ravi said...

iii looks completed at 1049.74 just a minute before closing. Here is updated possible path:
i 1035.00 1044.28 9.28
ii 1044.28 1041.13 -3.15 -33.9% of i
iii ? 1041.13 1049.74 8.61 0.927801724 of i
iv ???? 1049.74 1045.44 -4.30 -50.0%
v ???? 1045.44 1052.32 6.89 80% of iii

So, at least one more down up needed. But,can we truncate here and go down as Jay expects. That would be just like truncation of v of (v) of 5 on March 6. So why not.

As posted during Sunday, 1052.93 or above tomorrow, the ED scenario would be ruled out. It is getting bit too tight here.

Ravi said...

after8

i was referring to smaller degree third

Ravi said...

.dji did not confirm new spx hi before the close

Ravi said...

in the after market, we have retraced 50% of iii that was completed at 3:59 pm starting from low at 9:30 am.

Anonymous said...

i know what degree you meant ravi,i was talking of the longer timeframe myself.im thinking since we broke the august high theres nothing stopping that gann date next month.which would mean another wave up from wherever wave 4 ends.but all medium term outlooks are being binned weekly lately lol!

Jay Strauss said...

After 8
How does GANN compare to the dates I posted for Spt 25low & Oct 10th high

FLASH now has OCT 10th to 16 EXACTLY as I have it for the next big decline.

Jay

Ravi said...
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Ravi said...

As mentioned earlier around the close, we most likely finished a iii of (v) from 991.71 low.

Most likely scenario tomorrow is that we correct in a iv early AM towards 1046.41 (38.2% of iii and low of lower degree fourth) and then move up to complete v of (v) from 991.71 towards 1052-1053 area.

What next? Many scenarios for that.

- It can be end of P2, if 991.71 was B of Y and one five wave move is all thast C gets. Probem C too short.

- It can lead to one more up down in (iv) and (v) to a hi in 1060ish area next week, if 978.51 was B and we are doing a five wave from there for all of C. ( The Ed scenario only makes it safer in terms of being able to establish a stop loss)

- or the bullish scenario of breaking the wedge and going to 1080-1120 area; in which the move from 991.71 is only the first wave of a larger degree five waves.

The issue is where do you short and where do you place stop loss.

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